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		By: Gale		</title>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://mormonfaq.com/mormon-beliefs/jesus-christ/do-mormons-believe-in-a-different-jesus#comment-333078&quot;&gt;Ruby Agnir&lt;/a&gt;.

It might look that way, since we focus on the joy of the resurrection and not the pain of the cross in our music, although nothing could have happened without Christ&#039;s suffering.
Try these two pieces: Gethsemane --  
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2016/nov/03/fbi-leaks-hillary-clinton-james-comey-donald-trump?CMP=edit_2221

and try http://www.defordmusic.com/]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://mormonfaq.com/mormon-beliefs/jesus-christ/do-mormons-believe-in-a-different-jesus#comment-333078">Ruby Agnir</a>.</p>
<p>It might look that way, since we focus on the joy of the resurrection and not the pain of the cross in our music, although nothing could have happened without Christ&#8217;s suffering.<br />
Try these two pieces: Gethsemane &#8212;<br />
<a href="https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2016/nov/03/fbi-leaks-hillary-clinton-james-comey-donald-trump?CMP=edit_2221" rel="nofollow ugc">https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2016/nov/03/fbi-leaks-hillary-clinton-james-comey-donald-trump?CMP=edit_2221</a></p>
<p>and try <a href="http://www.defordmusic.com/" rel="nofollow ugc">http://www.defordmusic.com/</a></p>
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		By: Ruby Agnir		</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Feb 2016 06:27:12 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I am a choir director, have been for at least 60 years.  Finding the choral anthems composed by God-gifted members has been a source of beautiful music, more so because the composers share their music with others without monetary payment.  Blessed are you for sharing your gifts with the Christian world.

HOWEVER, with Lent being here and the second to the last week of next month will be Holy Week, I have been searching for anthems relevant to Christ&#039;s crucifixion among those composed by your wonderful composers. There is hardly any, to my despair.  Nothing about the passion of Christ, about His trial and sufferings.  Is this a correct observation?]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am a choir director, have been for at least 60 years.  Finding the choral anthems composed by God-gifted members has been a source of beautiful music, more so because the composers share their music with others without monetary payment.  Blessed are you for sharing your gifts with the Christian world.</p>
<p>HOWEVER, with Lent being here and the second to the last week of next month will be Holy Week, I have been searching for anthems relevant to Christ&#8217;s crucifixion among those composed by your wonderful composers. There is hardly any, to my despair.  Nothing about the passion of Christ, about His trial and sufferings.  Is this a correct observation?</p>
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		By: Gale		</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Jun 2015 21:49:09 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://mormonfaq.com/mormon-beliefs/jesus-christ/do-mormons-believe-in-a-different-jesus#comment-330584&quot;&gt;Matthew Michalek&lt;/a&gt;.

By early Christians we mean before 200 BC. At it&#039;s heart what we are trying to say is that no philosopher or bishop can define God; He defines and reveals Himself to holy prophets and has done so in modern as well as ancient times. I made some clarifications in the article and added some verses from section 76 of the Doctrine and Covenants, a collection of modern revelations as the Church was being restored. Joseph Smith surely was a Trinitarian before he had revelations showing the idea to false. I think your knowledge of the Christian philosophers certainly is greater than mine, and I don&#039;t claim to be a scholar, but revelation trumps everything, I think. Note that when Joseph Smith had his first revelation, in which God the Father introduced His Son, He condemned the creeds and certain ministers, but not faithful believers, of whom there are many throughout all of Christianity.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://mormonfaq.com/mormon-beliefs/jesus-christ/do-mormons-believe-in-a-different-jesus#comment-330584">Matthew Michalek</a>.</p>
<p>By early Christians we mean before 200 BC. At it&#8217;s heart what we are trying to say is that no philosopher or bishop can define God; He defines and reveals Himself to holy prophets and has done so in modern as well as ancient times. I made some clarifications in the article and added some verses from section 76 of the Doctrine and Covenants, a collection of modern revelations as the Church was being restored. Joseph Smith surely was a Trinitarian before he had revelations showing the idea to false. I think your knowledge of the Christian philosophers certainly is greater than mine, and I don&#8217;t claim to be a scholar, but revelation trumps everything, I think. Note that when Joseph Smith had his first revelation, in which God the Father introduced His Son, He condemned the creeds and certain ministers, but not faithful believers, of whom there are many throughout all of Christianity.</p>
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		By: Matthew Michalek		</title>
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					<description><![CDATA[What you said about St. Clement is far off base. Did he understand different philosophy as well? Yes but early Christians took things (like Christmas) and had a way of baptizing it. There are Christian elements in other faiths, just like Buddahism. Here&#039;s a tidbit on clement from a catholic writer


Was the Trinity “unknown” to Clement of Alexandria?  Clement calls Jesus “the Divine Word, He that is truly most manifest Deity, He that is made equal to the Lord of the universe” [6] as well as “God in the form of man, stainless, the minister of His Father’s will, the Word who is God, who is in the Father, who is at the Father’s right hand, and with the form of God is God.” [7] And Clement is decidedly adamant that “the Son of God, being, by equality of substance, one with the Father, is eternal and uncreated.” [8]  Jesus, according to Clement, wasn’t created, but “existed always, without beginning.”  Rather than holding Jesus to be an inferior, created being, Clement clearly teaches that Jesus is “co-eternal” and “co-existent with the Father.”  Isn’t this exactly what the doctrine of the Trinity teaches?

You could go on with countless church Fathers who taught the doctrine of the Holy Trinity such as St. Ignatius of Antioch (a student of St. John the Apostle.) St. Justin the Matyr wrote extensively on the Trinity. Not to mention the word Trinity was in use by the mid 200&#039;s, well before the council of Nincea. And constantine didn&#039;t over see the council, as Emporer he asked the Church to have it clearly defined so there wasn&#039;t unrest with what the Gnostics were teaching. Not to mention the term Catholic was in use by Ignatius in a letter to the Romans around AD 100. 

God bless, 

Matthew Gemma.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What you said about St. Clement is far off base. Did he understand different philosophy as well? Yes but early Christians took things (like Christmas) and had a way of baptizing it. There are Christian elements in other faiths, just like Buddahism. Here&#8217;s a tidbit on clement from a catholic writer</p>
<p>Was the Trinity “unknown” to Clement of Alexandria?  Clement calls Jesus “the Divine Word, He that is truly most manifest Deity, He that is made equal to the Lord of the universe” [6] as well as “God in the form of man, stainless, the minister of His Father’s will, the Word who is God, who is in the Father, who is at the Father’s right hand, and with the form of God is God.” [7] And Clement is decidedly adamant that “the Son of God, being, by equality of substance, one with the Father, is eternal and uncreated.” [8]  Jesus, according to Clement, wasn’t created, but “existed always, without beginning.”  Rather than holding Jesus to be an inferior, created being, Clement clearly teaches that Jesus is “co-eternal” and “co-existent with the Father.”  Isn’t this exactly what the doctrine of the Trinity teaches?</p>
<p>You could go on with countless church Fathers who taught the doctrine of the Holy Trinity such as St. Ignatius of Antioch (a student of St. John the Apostle.) St. Justin the Matyr wrote extensively on the Trinity. Not to mention the word Trinity was in use by the mid 200&#8217;s, well before the council of Nincea. And constantine didn&#8217;t over see the council, as Emporer he asked the Church to have it clearly defined so there wasn&#8217;t unrest with what the Gnostics were teaching. Not to mention the term Catholic was in use by Ignatius in a letter to the Romans around AD 100. </p>
<p>God bless, </p>
<p>Matthew Gemma.</p>
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